Prime Minister Viktor Orbán gave his weely interview to state-run Kossuth Rádió this morning. Just back from a visit to Egypt, he talked about what it was like to meet with “the Sunni Pope”. Orbán also talked about the various ways in which he would solve the refugee crisis, how Hungarians quietly help those in need, and why George Soros and Western European leaders are going against the will of the people.
The visit to Egypt and solution to the refugee crisis
Orbán spoke about meeting various Egyptian government officials and religious leaders. According to him, there is no conflict between Christianity and Islam.
Orbán says the two religions can live side by side — but that does not mean they can live together. Muslims, such as the “the Sunni Pope” Orbán met in Egypt, represent advanced and civilized culture, unlike that displayed by the migrants at the Battle of Rőszke.
Orbán says he shares “the Sunni Pope’s” opinion that the European Union needs to support Egypt’s government because it has a strong, loyal army, and a new constitution. Without these things, Europe could be subject to a wave of migrants three times larger than the one it experienced in 2015.
As for his solution to the refugee crisis, Orbán says the West needs to stop with its “failed” practice of exporting democracy.
The Hungarian prime minister believes that the West’s intervention in Syria, Libya and Iraq resulted in all of these countries losing their strong and centralized governments.
“This democracy craze,” as Orbán puts it, has resulted in utter chaos. He says the events of the past decade prove that democracy cannot be exported peacefully or militarily.
“Every nation needs to be left alone to build up its own political and economic system according to its own culture. We need to seek their cooperation by basing it on mutual understanding and peace. This is a better foreign policy than saying, ‘We know everything better than everyone else. We know what a real democracy is. We know what human rights are. And all of you have to understand this regardless of the fact that you see the world differently,'” Orbán said. “This has failed.”
On the subject of Europe’s refugee crisis, he accused the continent’s leaders of disregarding the will of the majority of Europeans when deciding to admit refugees and asylum seekers. The prime minister went on to offer his suggestions on how to stop the refugee crisis.
One option he suggested is to “arm and strengthen” the Libyan military so that Libya and its coast are under control.
Another option, he believes, would be for a European military coalition to get international permission to seize the coast of Libya. Once there, these troops would establish “enormous refugee camps” to hold up migrants on their way to Europe. But that’s not all, these camps could double as a place where Europeans could send illegal migrants. Orbán said this European military coalition should provide security at the camps and pay for accommodating the illegal migrants there.
“This will cost money, but it is still less problematic and requires less sacrifice than everything that results from millions coming into Europe in an unsupervised manner,” he said.
“The problem is that the European Union constantly talks about these questions but it never makes any decisions.”
On the subject of helping Coptic Christians, Orbán said Hungary abides by the Christian notion that one should help and not brag about it. So, while Hungary has helped Coptic Christians who were being persecuted because of their faith, the reason why we never hear about it is because Hungary does not brag about it.
(Last year’s announcement at an international conference by Minister for Human Resources Zoltán Balog that Hungary had taken in “1000 Coptic families” appears to have slipped the prime minister’s mind. Perhaps because it proved to be untrue.-ed.)
“We don’t make a big deal about this. I find that Western behavior repugnant which says, ‘Do the right thing and then make a big deal about it’. I think we have our moral obligations. Let’s do what we have to do. We Hungarians are a good people, this is a good nation,” Orbán said.
But it wouldn’t be an Orbán interview if he didn’t talk about Soros!
On the subject of the refugee crisis, Orbán went into his typical tirade of how Western European leaders and George Soros represent a position that goes against the will of the European people. Orbán equates his assessment of the situation to be the “calm before the storm”.
He went out of his way to say that Soros is the Hungarian government’s opposition, and the refugee crisis debate in Hungary is not a debate between the government and the opposition, it is actually a battle between George Soros and the Hungarian government.
Orbán got so carried away that when he was speaking about his close relationship with British Prime Minister David Cameron, he said he has a “Soros” (pronounced in Hungarian as “shorosh”) with Cameron. What Orbán meant to say was that he has a “szoros” (pronounced “sorosh”) or “tight” relationship with Cameron.